As for Washington's take? Which isnt to say that I was faking anything I wasnt but the entire way I handled my pregnancy and abortion, both internally and externally, was heavily influenced by pre-existing expectations. Heres how the subtle reveal plays out: Fitz accidentally sees Olivias medical file sitting on the desk of chief of staff Abby (Darby Stanchfield). November 19 2015, 7:00 PM PST, Stop reading now if you have yet to watch tonights Scandal fall finale. How much more will Scandal explore Planned Parenthood and abortion storyline going forward? joked Rhimes. But there's going to be a tremendous backlash I'm not saying this out of any knowledge of the story, but about life when Olivia has to look in the mirror and realizes that she's pushed away everybody who is close to her life and the man she does love. Fitz may be in a lot of denial here especially given all the grief he has suffered but he means it.. FIRST LADY SINGS THE BLUES | Now that Fitz has officially moved her designer duds into the White House, Livs finding her sudden First Lady-like duties a tad tedious. Olivias frustration with her position in the White House intensified as she watched Sen. Mellie Grant (Bellamy Young) work tirelessly to support Planned Parenthood (in the latest Scandal episode that delivered a timely message). The only thing more satisfying and more peaceful than getting what you want is recognizing that youll never get what you want, accepting it, and giving up the pursuit of the thing you know you can never have. Now its your turn. Read More: How Shonda Rhimes Is Changing the Dialogue About Abortion on TV, It all set the stage for the most epic fight Scandal has yet to feature between the couple that has long been considered end game. By Scandal was recently renewed for a sixth season, but does Rhimes actually look at that as the final season? Her father has been saying that, and while he represents evil to a lot of you, he also represents truth., RELATED: The Most Shocking Twists on Scandal, What their future may hold, in other words, is up in the air as is the future of Scandal, as Rhimes reiterated her plans to keepthe political fixer drama as a contained story. FATHER KNOWS BEST | Still shackled to a chair, an increasingly desperate Rowan decides to play mind games with his captor/potential executioner, Huck. The answer is YES, in capital letters. I havent actually decided, but I wonder sometimes. What did you think of the abortion twist? I didn't think Fitz could necessarily recover from the revelation that Olivia had been the one who saved her dad and yet Fitz did, albeit in such a dysfunctional way and making a grab at her and putting her in the White House. 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But I think thats what makes it worth talking about. Shes progressive politically but she really does these things because theyre important to talk about. It's interesting to me that it's a romance, that her primary story is a romancethat's what you've seen. Really?! We didnt think so. The procedure is done by a licensed healthcare professional.. Olivia calls Fitz an ineffectual president and believes the White House is a cage. HollywoodLife.com got the EXCLUSIVE scoop straight from Tony Goldwyn at Scandal's PaleyFest event about how he thinks . He cannot reject her no matter what. That [Olivia] was going to surrender every piece of who she was to be an appendage of [Fitz] was never going to work. A fan noted that since Disney has the upcoming Star Wars experience and Universal has Harry Potter, might fans ever get an actual Shondaland? Thats what I thought was normal. How much pain and suffering? There's been a lot of darkness of Huck, but he's trying to be a better person. Scandals Republican president may have just revealed his stance on abortion. As an audience, we had no idea she was pregnant, and we had no insight into her thought process between finding out she was pregnant and deciding to get an abortion. But that doesn't mean he won't find out in some way or another, whether she wants him to know about it or not. Here's everything that happened: Huck's Family Drama: The audience previewed Thursday night's episode, in which Huck must deal with the emotional fallout of not being in his son's life. But. Sometimes its more difficult since the show is often from Olivias point of view so I do have to ask Shonda questions in terms of what she has in mind for Fitz. Did the fall finale live up to your expectations? [Warning: This story contains spoilers from the season five midseason finale, Baby, Its Cold Outside, of ABCs Scandal.]. Hes a Republican but weve never asked that question [on the show]. (And if I have to tell you who Olivia Pope is, Im not sure why youre reading this; get thee to Netflix and come back post-binge). And of course she's withholding this terrible secret that Fitz has no clue about. Though Fitz and Olivia are done for the time being, Rhimes stressed that Scandal is more than just the Olitz relationship. but the couch is an inanimate object its a nice couch, and the couch isnt going to make a lot of demands on Olivia. The 50 greatest TV and movie detectives of all time. How do you think Fitz, who recently lost his son, would feel about Olivias abortion? . It is a giant 180 for the man. Is there hope for them down the line or can they only work out once his presidency is over? Olivias been on a journey since we started. The abortion and the breakup were both (messy and unpleasant, yes) about Olivia saying, Nope. Sign up for THR news straight to your inbox every day, Inside the business of TV with breaking news, expert analysis and showrunner interviews. Not only did Olivia and Fitz break up, but Olivia got an abortion. Look at the fact that Fitz was able to move past that. Sign up for THR news straight to your inbox every day, Inside the business of TV with breaking news, expert analysis and showrunner interviews. Watching it tugged at some visceral memory of my own abortion; My body remembered what it felt like to be lying there, the feeling of the doctor's hands on me, and the grip of my own around the edges of the table. How much pain and suffering? Kerry Washington promised us on Twitter that this was the episode you'd want to watch live, and she was absolutely right. In possibly related news, a familiar face returns during Thursdays episode, which screened ahead of the panel, that will surely raise some eyebrows. That abortion blew my mind. Brief and devoid of dialogue as it was, Scandals presentation of Olivias abortion was my favorite of any Ive seen in TV or movies. But he did so kind of from the right place; he was trying to take control of the situation. What did you think of Scandal's midseason finale? Heres the thing about how I handled my abortion: I was playing a part, even if I didnt realize I was. 2 days ago, by Joely Chilcott She fell in love, got the fantasy and she discovered the fantasy was not real. When Olivia misses an important dinner (she was getting an abortion) Fitz is upset. In truth,. Not once did Olivia say she was pregnant, and we had no idea what she was doing at the clinic until she laid down on the table. Fitz overreached a bit by moving her into the White House prematurely. If Fitz were smart, hed stay 100 miles away from her; he should get in another relationship because, really, how much abuse can two people take? Adding fuel to the fire that Olivia and Fitz really werent truly ready to be together in such a high-pressure fashion was the fact that Olivia was pregnant and opted to have an abortion unbeknownst to Fitz. And we dont in fact know where Fitz lives on this issue. Scandal airs Thursdays at 9 p.m. IT WAS NICE KNOWING YA, OLITZ! He's very progressive in so many ways and my guess is that Fitz would have a fairly progressive view on the matter, if only to say that it should not be in the hands of the government. TGIT returns Feb. 11 on ABC. I can do what ever I want! Fitz may have been replaced by a couch (Laughs.) Unfortunately, their relationship could not stand the public pressure, eventually leading to Olivias shocking holiday plans: getting an abortion and moving out of the White House. Before I did, I did a few other things: I talked to my boyfriend; I spent a week locked up in my apartment, going through the should we or shouldnt we motions of deciding what to do with my boyfriend, who wanted me to have the baby, and I pretended like I didnt already know that I wanted an abortion the second I found out I was pregnant. What ever Fitz has done wrong, what ever mistakes Fitz made or overreaching he did, they could have made a go of this. Greys Anatomy explored the subject when Sandra Ohs Cristina Yang has an abortion in season eight because she and then-husband, Owen (Kevin McKidd), did not agree on having children. Thats what I knew to do. He has always had a strong polarity in his life. 5 Meanwhile, Fitz finds out that Olivia aborted his baby. Hes very progressive in so many ways and my guess is that Fitz would have a fairly progressive view on the matter, if only to say that it should not be in the hands of the government. I think she has a lot of work to do on herself. Soon enough, Jake finds himself face-to-face with Russell (who took out Elise), ignores his pleas to join Lazarus One, and puts a bullet in his head. It's not a paint by numbers. Olivia's frustration with her position in the White House intensified as she watched Sen. Mellie Grant (Bellamy Young) work tirelessly to support Planned Parenthood (in the latest Scandal episode that delivered a timely message). Will Olivia tell Fitz about the abortion? 18 hours ago, by Eden Arielle Gordon That shed surrender herself to be a prisoner of the White House and be an appendage of him, that was never going to work. New Romance Brewing on Superman, Fox News 8 pm Viewership Down Sharply Since Tucker Carlson's Ouster, Stephen Amell Doesn't Think He's Done Playing Green Arrow. But give me a break! But that might be good for Fitz. Its honestly strange and annoying that TV and movies dont showcase more instances where women are not just ending up without a baby or a man in a sad context, but are choosing to not have a baby, or to not have a man, in the decidedly positive context of her creating the life she wants for herself. Do you think hes happy now that he knows that his insane shell of a human father is out of the picture again? Rowan keeps up the verbal assault until Huck finally snaps. And then, to boot, marching home, telling her boyfriend that she wasnt happy in their relationship, and didnt think they were headed towards a future that filled her needs, before then going home to her apartment, by herself not falling apart. It happened unceremoniously, unexpectedly, and the storyline moved forward quickly in fact, Olivia' abortion only got one minute of airtime. I may be alone at this point in thinking that, I don't know (Laughs.) At the end of the day, it's her body and her right, but it's his child. Jerry Springer hinted at his ailing health in his last-ever Australian TV interview before dying from pancreatic cancer at the age of 79 last Thursday. I can do what ever I want!" An abortion is a procedure to end a pregnancy. and part two is the colossal lie and betrayal and withholding of that terrible truth that Olivia didn't tell . It was as if she didnt connect with it at all. But to me, her primary story has been discovering herself. IMO, Olivia doesn't need to tell Fitz IF she doesn't ever intend to be with him again, (in which case she should stay away from the Oval office and stop offering unsolicited advice) That's true. The And Just Like That Trailer Teases Season 2's Release Date & Aidans Return, House Of The Dragon Season 2's Cast Includes 'Slow Horses' & 'Perry Mason' Stars, 'The Mandalorian' Season 4 Is Already In The Works, Everything To Know About 'RHOC' Season 17, Get Even More From Bustle Sign Up For The Newsletter. Making a splash: A deep dive into the live-action. Fox says life with Parkinson's is 'getting harder': "I'm not gonna be 80', Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson celebrate 35 years of marriage with cake, Chris Pratt talks Marvel audition fails: 'I was never gonna audition for Marvel again'. And we dont in fact know where Fitz lives on this issue. Subscribe for full access to The Hollywood Reporter. Olivia . [Warning: This story contains spoilers from the season five midseason finale, "Baby, It's Cold Outside," of ABC's Scandal.]. I think everything would lead us to believe that Fitz would be ethically pro-life, even if he has a progressive bend like George Bush Sr. But the bigger thing is not a political question; the bigger thing here is the emotional [impact]. I cant tell you that, Rhimes told EW ahead of the panel. (Also, there are a lot of spoilers below, but this is not your first day on the Internet, so you should know that by now.). A) I dont know, and B) I couldnt tell you. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories. I want her to fully be on her journey. But that scene has both points of view pretty firmly in place, which is part of what made it so sad. Come on, it's difficult; there's a lot of scrutiny but what the hell is Olivia so scared of?! For the time being, Scandal is heading into the height of election season, drawing many parallels to the real-life political landscape so much so, in fact, that Rhimes revealed theyve had to change dialogue in scripts that hit too close to home. After a tumultuous few seasons of back-and-forth, Fitz (Tony Goldwyn) and Olivia (Kerry Washington) seemed poised to find happiness. The idea that they were together under the circumstances in which they were together that she was going to move into the White House and become Mellie [Bellamy Young], who was the unhappiest woman weve ever seen was a farce, Rhimes continued. It's such a divisive issue in our society and sadly has become a real political football. I think Fitz and Olivia really love each other. "Theres no logic to Fitzs love for Olivia, so I think he could get past it. by Ariel Baker First, Papa Pope laments his own flock of so many ungrateful children, then quickly turns the tables and goes right for the jugular: He calls Huck an insane shell of a father and then muses whether Hucks own son is actually better off without him. Unfortunately, their relationship could not stand the public pressure, eventually leading to Olivias shocking holiday plans: getting an abortion and moving out of the White House. And we don't in fact know where Fitz lives on this issue. But that's not to say that it would ruin any chance of Olitz getting back together, at least not in this actor's eyes. REMEMBER ME, MELLIE? Fitz tells Olivia that she never needed his approval. But as Mellie eventually starts to falter under the strain of holding court on the Senate floor she needs to pee, badly! In the first teaser, released Thursday by ABC, Olivia tells presidential hopeful Mellie . Read More: 'Scandal's' Tony Goldwyn: Having It All Has Never Been So Devastating. And more importantly, she didn't have to just like she didn't have to tell Fitz that she was pregnant, which she obviously chose not to do shortly before ending their relationship. But I do, and I think when people love each other as primally as these two people do, I think they can come back from anything. "Second to the death of his son, that's the worst thing that could ever happen to Fitz to find out that Olivia was pregnant with his baby, had an abortion and did not tell him," he says. Glamour may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. So, will he? Its such a divisive issue in our society and sadly has become a real political football. The latter event was a surprise to many, but it was unprecedented and something, thanks to Shonda Rhimes, that will forever go . Rhimes went on to add that Olivia's father, while evil, represents a lot of truth for Olivia. But that might be good for Fitz. Speaking of debates, Rhimes said that she often had to eliminate dialogue she already wrote for fictional debates "because it already happened in real life.". Why do you think more shows dont go there? Then I saw Hillary in this green [outfit]. The idea that they were together under the circumstances in which they were together that she was going to move into the White House and become Mellie [Bellamy Young], who was the unhappiest woman weve ever seen was a farce, Rhimes continued. The 1-minute scene was so flawlessly orchestrated in a way that both refused to strip Olivia of her strength, while also not softening the utterly unpleasant reality of the actual experience of undergoing that procedure. I feel like she disassociated from it. Show of hands if you saw THATScandal twist coming. But I do, and I think when people love each other as primally as these two people do, I think they can come back from anything. "Olivia is on a journey," Rhimes started out. 2 days ago, by Lindsay Kimble Goldwyn previously told THRthat Fitz would have a progressive view on the matter. Youre the biggest bitch I know, Liv muses, dont tell me you cant do this. At last, Mellie triumphantly runs out the clock on the bill, even earning a handshake (which she rejects) from cranky Senator Moskowitz. Portia de Rossi mentioned that she'd like to get inside Huck's complicated mind. Though Fitz and Olivia are done for the time being, Rhimes stressed that Scandal is more than just the Olitz relationship. At all. Is this breakup something that Olivia and Fitz can come back from? Thats where shes coming from as a dramatist. So, will he? "It's because of who Olivia is in the brains of these writers. PMC Entertainment. Does this open the door for Mellie to return? Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Since that November episode, that storyline has not been touched on and the. 2023 BDG Media, Inc. All rights reserved. Olivia' abortion only got one minute of airtime, filibustering in opposition of a Congressional budget. Smith, who we spoke with just a few weeks ago, said "Marcus is fighting to set the bar, and yet [others] are trying to remove it in, The 51 Best Mothers Day Gifts to Buy This Year, 63 No-Fail Gift Ideas for Every Guy on Your List, 53 Genius Gifts for People Who Have Everything. His connection with Cyrus (Jeff Perry), even thought they tried to patch things up, that trust is fundamentally compromised. The two trade barbs about their upbringing. 2 days ago, by Victoria Edel But he somehow understands that Olivia made a very personal choice and he instinctively respects that. To revisit this article, visit My Profile, thenView saved stories. Ive always had the end point in mind.. He's a Republican but we've never asked that question [on the show]. But Liv didnt tell Fitz about the abortion during their break-up fight because it wasnt relevant. That was followed by an epic, seemingly irreparable quarrelbetween Liv and Fitz, after which she moved out of the White House. Fitz thinks she released the man who killed his son so she wouldnt have to marry him. Fitz may grow through the experience; I have no idea what Shonda has in mind. Ive always had the end point in mind.. Abby and Fitz don't really know each other. Well done, Shonda Rhimes! To me, thats what was so disturbing about that abortion scene: it was so mundane. Olivia comes home, grabs Mellie's hootch . What ever Fitz has done wrong, what ever mistakes Fitz made or overreaching he did, they could have made a go of this. She sat behind me, and I was like, 'Action!' Scandal: Will Fitz ever find out about the abortion? All Rights Reserved. I dont understand it. So why can't we have more abortion storylines storyblips might be a more accurate descriptor on TV? But emotionally, we were all silent afterward; like, "What just happened?!". I think it would be, next to the death of his son, the most gutting news he could get and frankly I don't know how he'd recover from that. 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The now-former couple agrees that they rushed into things and weren't ready ("we tried," they say) and that they were "broken" going into this. For most women, having an abortion is just one unglamorous task in an ongoing mission to put together all the pieces of the life we want. She also mentioned that just like Liv, Fitz is on a journey too. Everyone else, you may proceed. What was the table read like when the cast got this script? I was really impressed with the boldness of it; Shonda never fails to amaze me with her fierceness. Fitz is going to be terribly lonely. And yet I don't think they have a choice in the matter with this. She then heads back to the White House and makes a beeline for Mellies booze stash, which sets up an epic Olitz brawlfor the ages. In truth, executive producer Shonda Rhimes has not made a decision whether Fitz will discover the truth. ("We've talked about these things," is all Rhimes would elaborate.) Scandal - "Dead in the Water" Subscribe: http://goo.gl/mo7HqT I mean, its fine, its what we all do until we get a little older and realize that what weve been taught about what adults do or how adults feel in various situations all of which is largely based on what weve seen in movies and on TV is incredibly narrow and ill-fitting for who we are as individuals. I feel like she disassociated from it. My only responsibility is for the story. No other characters, including her live-in boyfriend, were even aware she'd had the procedure (that we know of). Its Me, Margaret, 25 Of Our Favorite Mothers Day Episodes From 'The Golden Girls' to 'Rugrats', Rihanna Is Definitely Going To Impress Her Kids With Her New Movie Role, No, Meghan Markle Isnt Returning To Acting, What Parents Are Talking About Delivered Straight To Your Inbox, By subscribing to this BDG newsletter, you agree to our. I think there's hope. She didn't even confirm she'd had an abortion or tell Fitz about . We know where it ends and when it ends, Rhimes said, though the question is when. Its a quiet and unremarkable appointment that we go to, and we take care of our bodies, and then we go do whatever else we have to do, and we go home feeling better about the things weve gained from making empowered choices about our lives, far more than we feel upset about the loss of the things we didnt choose. People have very strong and justifiable views on both sides of the question. People have very strong and justifiable views on both sides of the question. It just means that Olivia does not know who she is yet. Olivia believes Fitz is talking about Jake, but the president is talking about a womans right to choose. How will we see both Olivia and Fitz deal with the aftermath of their break-up? The idea that they're together under the circumstances of which they were togethermove into the White House and [sort of] become Mellieis a farce. I don't know how to do it any other way. If you think the debates youve seen in the real world are fun star Kerry Washington teased coyly. Katie Lowes and Scott Foley both mentioned Jeff Perry's Cyrus, while Kerry Washington said that even though her favorite character on the show right now is VP Susan Ross, "I feel like I might want to be George Newbern's Charlie for one episode." At the end of the day, its her body and her right, but its his child, Goldwyn told THR in November after the midseason finale that featured the abortion reveal. The biggest? I didnt; I just had to absorb it and think about it. Smith, who we spoke with just a few weeks ago, said "Marcus is fighting to set the bar, and yet [others] are trying to remove it in a way. This isnt what I want. Washington was quick to add that she'll do just about anything to make fun of Goldwyn. I know what I want. What if I had been, say, 16 years old, and seen Olivia going alone, confidently, to her appointment no looping in her boyfriend, no implication that the thing happening inside her body is anyones business but her own. shut down the government! "I will put that on my list!" But his feelings for Olivia defy logic. Unfortunately, their relationship could not stand the public pressure, eventually leading to Olivia's shocking holiday plans: getting an abortion and moving out of the White House. Roman Polanski, 89, and Samantha Geimer, 60, were seen beaming in a recent photo taken in Paris - 45 years after he raped her. 'Scandal's' Tony Goldwyn on Abortion Storyline, Fitz and Olivia's Future. I think everything would lead us to believe that Fitz would be ethically pro-life, even if he has a progressive bend like George Bush Sr. But the bigger thing is not a political question; the bigger thing here is the emotional [impact].. The talk show king was a guest on Channel . If youre on a TV show and youre having an abortion, youre either the sullied slut whos also probably a drug addict because why not, a rape victim, or the young woman whos making a sad-but-right decision to protect her future but who will be haunted for the rest of her life by her choice and while I suppose all of these representations are accurate portrayals for a small percentage of real women who have abortions, theres a glaring lack of grown-up woman who makes a decision to end a pregnancy, schedules an appointment to do so, goes, leaves, and carries on living her life without falling apart. The latter is exactly what we saw Olivia doing on Scandal, and as weird as it is to think, Finally! Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. Olivia calls Fitz an ineffectual president and believes the White House is a cage. And the pressures are intense and to not have anybody that you can share your confidence with, who you know has your back and frankly who understands your frailties, that's a tough place to live in. The two trade barbs about their upbringing. The Existential Yearning Of Are You There God? It was not what I expected with Olivia and Fitz. I mean, holy sh*t, I was a strong breeze away from having a baby that I fully knew I did not want, all because I unquestioningly believed, as I had been taught, that whether or not to have an abortion was something that you do with the guy who got you pregnant. "I don't know if he can go [without seeing his family]," said Guillermo Diaz. Will Olivia tell Fitz about the abortion? Scandal was recently renewed for a sixth season, but does Rhimes actually look at that as the final season? Its interesting to me that her primary story is a romance. I somehow feel as though his reaction wouldn't be all that understanding. Olivias suits! And then, we end the . I don't think of it as a product of what's being put out there. Added Goldwyn: "When I give her direction or my thoughts on something, she's like, 'Yeah, right!" She's like, "Hey, people, I'm putting this on television because this is what is happening in our lives." Charlie (wearing festive reindeer antlers!) Olivia told Abby she is not ashamed of her abortion, and she does not care who knows. And with their approval ratings on the rise, Fitz wants to keep Liv out of White House business, but Mellies ploy to grab the spotlight and shut down the government (more on that later) set off Livs gut instincts.

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