Electing for a weaker AI in that scenario would be wise, and starting with a very conservative amount of it. WebFor eg starting with 200:200 mg per week. and our I did experiment with SARMs about 6 months ago, after I got bloodwork done just before I did that and my natural levels were basically more or less identical to what you see above. I would say .5 EOD see how your body reacts and go After dedicating over 8 years to extreme self-improvement, I have created "More Plates More Dates" as a one stop shop for helping you to get yourself on the right path to the "best you" possible too. Don't know what else to say. And i was on a similar dose. I'm injecting EoD into my delts using Sustanon (Please don't tell me to use another ester like test-e, as this is the only one I can access and have a prescription for, and this won't cause an issue with my doctor). Total Testosterone MS (ng/dL) 250 -> 786 (ref range 264-916), Free Testosterone MS (%) 1.1 -> 2.4 (ref range 1.5-3.2), Free Testosterone MS (pg/mL) 28 -> 189 (ref range 52-280), Estradiol MS post-TRT 17 pg/mL (ref range 8.0-35.0) (not tested in preliminary bloodwork). Heres an example of what Im talking about: Hey guys, newbie to AAS here and wanted to run my cycle by you guys and see if you have any feedback or changes you would make. If I kept my AI dosage constant like that during a cycle (by cycle I mean a blast phase of a supraphysiological amount of highly aromatizing hormones), my experience would more than likely start out with me feeling symptoms of low estrogen, followed by symptoms of high estrogen later in the cycle once my level of aromatization had surpassed the inhibitory capacity of that particular dosage of AI. Is it safe to wait until sides develop before adding it? It isnt rocket science, however, many users seem to have completely neglected to comprehend why they are using an AI in the first place, and what purpose it serves. I cant even count how many times Ive seen a guy propose his entire cycle layout asking for feedback, and for some strange reason his AI dose is already determined prior to the cycle, and stays constant for the entire duration of the cycle despite other changes in aromatizing compounds occurring during the cycle. Then, after actually getting on TRT, another challenge often rears its ugly head, and that is Estrogen control, and how to go about doing it safely and most effectively. If I did start to get symptoms of high E2, what AI would you recommend and what dosage? 6' 1" male at ~169 If you have any of the traditional symptoms of high estrogen or low estrogen, you should first and foremost get blood work with a sensitive assay test to see where your estrogen levels lie. If you dont need it, it will crash your e2 and youll feel like crap. no ai needed (I only use 12.5mg asin once a week on 500mg test). Performance & security by Cloudflare. IMO its not worth itstay healthy and be glad your Dr. is allowing .8ml farrago November 13, 2013, 6:40pm 12 50mgs or even 100mgs E4 days will work very well. For the most part, its been great. Most people dont need that much. If you need an ai at 200, maybe that's a lil high for your body. Gotta get bloods done to be sure. Im good with 300mg/wk test e with 25mg proviron ed. Depends on YOUR physiology but you might not need AI at 200. 160mg a week puts me right at the top of range and no ai (e also high but in range). Is there anyone who is on 250mg per week and experiences no major side effects, bloat or moon face? 1mg a day is way too high to start. /r/PEDs is dedicated to information about enhancing performance. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. When I initially started TRT: Immediate mental benefits. So, if theres not as much test circulating in his system as it hasnt fully built up yet, there wont be as much Estrogen in his system. Week 1-12 500mg/week Testosterone Cypionate (Mon/Thur at 250mg), 0.5mg/day Arimidex. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Cookie Notice Disclaimer: The information included in this article is intended for entertainment and informational purposes only. I feel just right. If your Estrogen is too low, then you need to slightly lower your AI dose, or switch to a weaker one and start the titration process over again. My question is, will I need to use an AI such as arimidex or aromasin to keep e2 levels in check if im only using 200mg per week? Is it necessary? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I'm 6'7 (200cm) around 245lbs (11kg) so I find that I typically have to run higher dosages of everything, but your situation may be different. For more information, please see our By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I've experimented with different diets, but none of it's really objectively made much of a difference, other than the keto diet which destroyed my recovery because I did it properly and maintained therapeutic ketosis, which meant restricting protein. I can run 200mg per week with no AI but if I add HCG then my e2 skyrockets which will cause libido issues. Second cycle you could bump up the test to 400 or 500 mg per week and still see nice gains. I am attracted to women again, and it feels strange, because it's been a while, but it's not distracting. Keep in mind, Arimistane is the only over the counter Aromatase Inhibitor on that list, the other three are Rx AI's, and can only be obtained via a prescription from your doctor and should only be used under the direction of your doctor. WebCurrent dosing 0.25 mL of 200 mg/mL testosterone cypionate E3.5D (100 mg/week) intramuscular, vastus lateralis, using a 29 gauge insulin syringe. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7c0d6cf02a14bf6a Both scenarios are very unpleasant to say the least. I've been on both 125mg and 150mg dosage to experiment with. I run 200mg a week, I am 28 and I cruise and blast too. Run that for 12 weeks and then PCT. Nowadays, AIs are treated almost as on-cycle essentials, and are simply a necessity just like your multivitamin you pop each day is. If these symptoms go away and your sex drive is perfect, you have no erectile dysfunction issues, etc. We won't share your information with anyone. Would I need an AI for a 300mg test cycle? TRT started 06-Aug-2020. Either drop the HCG or lower your test dose. This subreddit is for questions and discussion related to testosterone replacement therapy and testosterone. Start with a reasonable AI dose, maybe half a mg eod and after a few weeks, maybe a month, get blood work and really understand what's happening inside your body brotha, By ftfaaa in forum Anabolic Steroids and PEDs, By ben01 in forum Anabolic Steroids and PEDs, By karimsins in forum Anabolic Steroids and PEDs, By Actionman in forum Anabolic Steroids and PEDs, Need help knowing whether i should take arimidex with 200mg of test cypionate, Evolutionary.org Steroids Research Forums. Ive done all my research, but I want to get rid of my last bit of uncertainty before actually starting. Scan this QR code to download the app now. WebFirst cycle should be test only. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. BBiceps Well-known member Awards 4 Oct 12, 2020 #11 I use 1mg on 200mg Test C a week, it kept my estro fairly low (not too low), without it my estro got high (a couple (bloodwork provided for 150mg). Privacy Policy. So as expected, his libido nose dived, his dick ceased to work properly (no erections), he had insanely dry and achy joints, among a myriad of other horrible side effects. E.G. I have days where I feel like an absolute king and then I have days where I feel worse than when I started trt. Look closer, from week 1-12 the guy has proposed that he will be using 0.5 mg per day of Arimidex. Zero health issues whatsoever, knock on wood. This is EXACTLY why when you are utilizing a drug that aromatizes into Estrogen and an AI may become necessary, you get baseline blood work, and then when you add an AI in, you use a very conservative dose of the most mild and forgiving AI there is (depending on what/how much aromatizing hormones you're using), and titrate up accordingly based on your blood work until you've reached the Estrogen sweet spot (or based on symptoms which is the bro method which is not recommended). if your TRT is 125 mg per week for example, and your doctor is giving you 0.5 mg of Arimidex twice per week, and after several weeks utilizing that protocol you get a blood test and your Estrogen levels show that you have a 5.5 pg/ml reading, you are using too much Arimidex, and probably shouldn't even be using Arimidex in the first place as such a little amount of it is crashing your Estrogen and it is too powerful of an AI for your particular needs. I agree with CP3 and the gentleman above here, 1 mg a day with 200 mgs Test would presumably crash your E levels. I don't feel like death all the time. (PCT) Week 15-17 100mg/day Clomid for the first 10 days, then 50mg/day for 10 more days. Most definitely not 1mg of Adex a day that's over kill. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. It's much healthier. And not only that, he was on 1 mg per day. Some guys don't even need an Aromatase Inhibitor at all, which is also something to keep in mind. Scan this QR code to download the app now. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. However, if you understand how these drugs work in the first place, you will understand there is a compounding effect with everything, and they take several weeks to fully saturate in your system. For more information, please see our Hello everyone. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or anything else related to testosterone the substance. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Here are my starting and current numbers Reference: Total T(348-1197) Free T(4.7-24.4) Reply the-lone-squid Additional comment actions I didn't really use an A.I except for the first 2 weeks. For me personally, 75mg twice weekly yielded a tT of 650 and E2 (sensitive) of 25. Privacy Policy. WebIf you inject 200mg of test a week your natural production will be near 0. I'm really grateful TRT is an option for me. That was WITH me taking HCG. while having a potential 2 week ester, are more effective when administered more often. That was the first time I figured out my problems were from testosterone deficiency, and as expected, SARMs massively increased my recovery not just to normal levels but beyond (worthwhile experiment for sure). Started 200 mg Test C/week three weeks ago. Stupid question if you have to ask it.

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