Nowback to USCCA! What's the price? What's the odds of a CCW incident in your life? I would be interested to know how many cases they have handled and what was the outcome or resolution of the cases. USCCA reached out after my unsolicited review and saw that Pew Pew Tactical offers a beginner gun course (created for our readers who wanted to get a beginner/refresher course on handgun safety). USCCA versus NRA Firearms Training Looking at USCCA versus NRA, yes there are differences. Especially those who are currently practicing lawful concealed carry. Attorney fees, paid immedially was contacted several times for any acute needs. To this day, they are still the forefront leaders in making sure that the Second Amendment rights of every American are preserved and not infringed as intended in the US Constitution. Dec 13, 2016. Here are some points to consider: I've had USCCA insurance for two years; given the number of prosecutors who hate guns/love publicity one would be a fool not to have some sort of insurance. What do you get with the beginning Gold tier? If I got this wrong please forgive me, otherwise, could you please clear this up for me. To hell with the USCCA. Finally, USCCA goes above and beyond in ways that no other concealed carry insurer would dare to go. I finally unsubscribed. Since you CAN downgrade/upgradeit might be worth it to start with Platinum, watch all the Proving Groundsand then downgrade. I was tired of getting my email bombarded by USCCA trying to sell more stuff. Details here. Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. Anything that is ambiguous in an insurance policy is construed against the company. Or do I at least get that access after paying all year on monthly? I am down to USCCA and NRA carry guard. Kevin. I cannot determine their experience level, which hinders my confidence--but it also led me to increase my USCCA to the highest amount, just in case I must switch attorneys mid-stream. What about the exclusions? #7not trying our your defensive ammo in your gun. I rock with USCCA as well. There is a strong emphasis on the CC part but how do you get if you're at home? Gun Owners of America. Easy peasy if youve got the fundamentals down. I was not arrested & allowed to go home after the event. For gun owners with the same belief today, it's an excellent resource. I have live in VA and I use USlawshield/ Texaslawshield. It means "therefore,' not "new topic.". If you want to learn more about the insurance part yourself see the full details here. Reddit thread with MORE good information, although this thread was in part based on TheTrace reporting. If I had not paid the extra $47/year, my spouse would only be covered for incidents within my home. IF they don't - just delete the email I'm wondering if anybody who reads this has dealt with US Lawshield. But since the 1970s, it has become one of the leaders in lobbying against legislation that would perhaps intend to curb gun rights. But given the situation this year, why is there no FAQ on their site that's like 'Yes, the policy is now NY-compliant'? I have the same question plus. Turns out that most insurance policies exclude payments for "intentional acts". The value is just there, plus theyre classier than the NRA Carry Guard jerks IMO. A criminal-you are at a distinct disadvantage. The USCCA also has a network of attorneys that are available in the event of any emergencies. Highly recommend giving it a watch since the best defense is to never get into bad situations in the first place! Does it cover theft? $11 at Right to Bear Insurance Jump to Details Best No Limit Plan CCW Safe You also get their magazine digitally + paper copy. As expected, Elite members will have access to all the perks including discounts on USCCA merchandise and events (including early access and a VIP experience at the annual Concealed Carry Expo). Think of the Zimmerman acquittal at $1.7 million. The USCCA is a direct competitor to the service Carry Guard provides. Michael Lutes is the managing editor and owner at Gun Mann. You probably know USCCA and other competitors for concealed carry insurance but its a common misnomer that stuck. But thanks for the rec! He sacrificed some family time but not so much that he didn't benefit from having one. It was an old plan that is no longer available. I do remember signing up with LS in about '14 or '15. When my renewal was up, I found another carrier, Collectors Insurance. The NRA concealed carry insurance program in NY was shut down by the insurance department for various violations and the people selling it had to pay millions of dollars in fines. They dispatch a support person directly to the site when possible. I emailed them 3x asking them to answer a few Qs before I make my decision to join, and NO ONE EVER GOT BACK TO ME. Gun Owners of America is probably the most popular NRA alternative. This is a HUGE amount of money that most people could not afford. Early in the USCCA policy there is reference to terms on the Declaration page (for example, the Each Claim Retention Amount) that are not fully explained or defined in the body of the USCCA policy. You really have to be lawyer with insurance expertise to determine if any of these are of any value. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The legal aid is increased in this regard. It is a common confusion of Members and prospective customers as they are used to being the "policyholder" for Auto, Home, Renters, Etc. They're a pre-paid legal service (no legal fees out of your pocket and then wait for reimbursement). The incidents you mention with other similar groups, example TLS, that case was dropped and TLS was absolved of any wrong doing. Discounts and free shipping at their store. Seriously, although I do support the NRA, theyre late comers and were so rude to the USCCA it was ludicrous. The USCCA insurance plan will make sure that regardless if you do use your firearm in a gun-free zone to take out an assailant that is using a firearm with the intent to injure or kill people. What I have been doing instead of buying that first gun is acquiring more knowledge: Target Focus Training (TFT) self-defense, Situational Awareness & Avoid-Escape-Defend programs, and I've bought some less than lethal self-defense items along with DVDs (TRS-FF) to show how to use them. Pretty decent but nothing to write home about. In the chart above we have indicated the amount the provider would actually pay out to cover the fee. Thanks for this post. This also included legal coverage of up to $150,000 in criminal court cases while civil case coverage was guaranteed up to $1,000,000. Heres a clip of how to fix a double-feed malfunction. After the third e-mail was sent, I checked to see if my status was fixed. Its a series of front-facing discussion, top-down views, and pictures of important concepts. Nice review! Since you can upgrade or downgrade I would soak up the infosee if its worth the new stuff each month and then downgrade. Also, I became a resident of Florida, but she is still a New Yorker. I hope I never need them, but Im confident that they are in my corner. I am leaning to Carry Guard right now, but I was waiting to see USCCA insurance backer. They were the best then and still are today. Last up for this series is gun store etiquette which is always great info for first-timers to lower some anxiety when looking and purchasing firearms. I have some experience in the insurance industry and I know a number of people with long experience in the insurance industry. Thank you so much for this article. I don't think sothis is more for defensive gun use. "We do not What do you do if youre a resident of New York? Hi Cog, this is from their site, "This liability policy is issued by United Specialty Insurance Company, a subsidiary of State National Companies, Inc. State National Companies currently writes over $600 million in premiums. If the situation involves an allegation, other than simply having committed a crime, then the insurance may provide coverage under a reservation of rights. Just kidding! Appeals and record expungement covered. Now you are saying that you have an Elite uscca membership and it is the best one. Red Flag hell I'm afraid to let my neighbors ever see any of my weapons my crossbow included. Interesting and great reaffirming article! Sad that one needs "self defense" insurance. Couldn't find any "Silver" plan? Please consider editing the article to be more accurate. I feel a certain peace of mind knowing they can help me navigate through the legal minefield should a SD situation occur. The USCCA (United States Concealed Carry Association) is a membership-based organization that advocates for gun rights. Coverage for my wife, being in home. Second, USCCA members who are law enforcement and military receive discounts. The majority of USCCAs funding comes from their concealed carry insurance policies. I have been studying self-defense for 3 years. Please note that traditionally the fee paid to a bondsman is 10% of the value of the bond. When the NRA bumped me down to yearly, my magazine subscription went from EPL to expiring a year and a half down the road. I have enjoyed all your articles. I have been going back and forth between these two services. I signed up with the silver plan. What happens if it is determined that you acted in self-defense and it takes a long time to get your firearm back or never do from the police? It was founded in 1871 and has millions of members. I wouldn't trust "Thetrace" to tell me where the bathroom was. They wonder what this insurance covers that would not be covered by other general liability insurance such as an umbrella liability policy. Eric: You will also be able to access some of the advanced educational material that is available to you. I bought my year of coverage which is actually 14 months but I had not heard of the class action suit against them. The company itself As for perks, policyholders were entitled to a one-year membership with the NRA. Then ends with some firearms knowledge. When asking about my partner I was told her membership would be covered for a small one time fee per year and I would receive a senior discount off the reg. I also (thankfully) have no experience in that arena. https://ccwsafe.com/page/quick-comparison-of-service. Defensive Carry thread with a lot of good info. These journals are free, 12/year going back 10 years: https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/en/our-journal Its ok but I didnt watch too many of them. I decided to go to the max since I reside in CA and own 2 small businesses. Simply select a state. Most insurance only covers accidental, unforeseeable events and excludes intentional acts (like using a weapon in self defense). 3. How does that work? Most companies would normally withhold that information so their customers would not see it and get confused. But like any insurance you only need it when you need it, Just signed up for the USCCA through the link - hope the noob offer is still valid, too pricey and limited coverage, Texas/US Law Shield better in my opinion. Excellent article. USCCA was the company that I mainly considered but now I'd have to reconsider on that especially no coverage for Red Flag. This write up convinced me to where I'm *now a USCCA member. As always, thanks for the great research and comparative work that you guys do for the rest of us! First difference between USCCA and CCW Safe First, CCW Safe offers you $100,000 in bail coverage under the shown plan, while USCCA offers $50,000. When I first saw it, I did the math and figured out very quickly that, for the price, coverage, and risk of a claim, this is a better deal for the insurance company than travel insurance. In the USCCA fine print located at https://www.usccacoverageform.com/, it states in: Eric, Register for the class date that you want using the link below. Any replies would be appreciated ! Their second year and beyond price is $95, much lower than CCW Safe price of $179 for ccw-only customers ($145 for ex-military/police). Their hotline is staffed by attorneys (anything you say on the phone is covered by attorney/client privilege). I was going to send one video set I purchase back, not because it was poor but because it was not exactly what I thought I needed - total refund, happily given. Another issue with USCCA is if I'm convicted or plea bargain, they won't pay my defense? It appears that they cover everything that USCCA covers and then some so I'd like to hear from anyone who has done in depth comparison of the two. I asked USCCA and here's what I found out: I would really like to see an in depth comparison of USCCA and CCW Safe. I was surprised that you rarely carry a firearm so you must live in Kalifornia! Much better b-roll for this course. Should that ever happen, last thing I want hanging over my head is the possibility of being sued by my insurance company at their discretion to recover costs. I was in that business for over forty (40) years. The additional Level 3 Protector Academy courses are quite goodas well as the three additional standalone courses that get much more in-depth. Personally, I think this is unfortunate. One of those materials is a video course on when you should use deadly force. I read up on the US/TX Law Shield class action suit in 2013. Next up is a little section on choosing your gun (which I felt was a rehash) and then a good section on the 10 concealed carry mistakes you can make. Look at Giles v. USCCA and you might change your mind. I enjoy your articles on handguns and accessories I have a save folder for the ones I want to keep. Been thinking about getting for a while and the article is the kick I needed to sign up. Learn more at. Meaning you may or may not get the best defense possible. Therefore, if there is any ambiguity in the wording, it will be ruled against the person who wrote the contract -- the insurance company. towards your level. If they refuse to pay your claim and they are 1,500 miles away with no regulator in your area that you can call on for help, what are you going to do? The representative with whom I spoke was nice enough but I don't think he really understood the reason I was asking for a copy of the Declaration page but was just reading from a script or canned answers. Most of these training courses are also based in local areas and taught by NRA certified instructors. Therefore, exclusions are written with pretty solid legal language. No gun give aways or free crap. So, it appears, like the NRA coverage, they stop paying for any services once a guilty conviction is arrived at. When I contacted USCCA to upgrade, I was informed of my new cost per month. 3 : a familiar or usual setting : congenial environment; also : the focus of one's domestic attention. And as of October 2021there are no longer defense expense limits. I am constantly referring people to your website. I also get a 10% LEO discount. I purchased US Lawshield insurance at the end of an IL CCW class when a rep came in to tell us all about their program. Hi Bill, it's now a legacy planthe lowest is gold as of today. A 24/7 hotline staffed with legal and concealed carry experts was also available. Glad to hear USCCA had your back. Hi Jenny, thanks for bringing this up! My hope is I will never have to use/test it. It was created in 1975 by NRA board member and California state senator H. L. Richardson in response to his belief that the NRA was compromising on the protection of gun rights. USCCA Levels, 2023 Things weve gone over before but now its more in-depth. - $149/year for ccw and police/military, active/retired; $179 same for ccw-only major typossorry. purchase helps support my work in bringing you more awesome gun and gear articles. What I did instead was buy a SIRT to train with (and guess what?) I'll need to re-read CW Safe to see if they have the same clause. I know enough that anything not spelled out in writing is something you will never see. There are currently three tiers of USCCA membership: They differ in the amount of education and training content youre able to access on the USCCA website. The prosecutor's budget is UNLIMITED. I have held my Sacramento county California CCW for over 20 years and luckily have only had to draw my weapon twice both times showing the attackers i was armed put an end to the situation. I cannot figure out if you were comparing CCWSAFE and Lawshield to USCCA or the different plans within USCCA. The association was founded by Tim Schmidt and Tonnie Schmidt in 2003 as they realized that the safety of their found families was their responsibility. Next up is the in-person range test which is more difficult now. Thanks . Suggest everyone read the fine print! Armed Citizens (LDN) for the best value and educational materials: However at the end of it all I wish there was some more holster stuff or things at the range. Both the USCCA and NRA have this as part of their respected policies. I personally liked the stats that 86% of defensive shooting events occur between 9 and 15 feet. As part of the launch, the USCCA launched a periodical known as Concealed Carry Magazine and provided an online forum to their website. So, went to sign up with USCCA, but got as far as putting in my address. However, they prove that they are not created equal in some other categories. There's tons of emails but I still at least open them to see what's going on. What's next? I trusted this site so much that I'm really disappointed with this review of USCCA as an insurance carrier. Thanks! The only other discount is a 10% discount for having served in law enforcement, govt service or military. Calls into question the rest of your article. It is a good rule that you are far better off buying insurance from large, well-known companies that are registered with the insurance department to do business in your state. The exclusions seem to be the same for these and the NRA/USCCA civil liability policies. At least offer as an additional/. You get access to legal aid, but also access to expert questions, educational materials, and even discounts for merchandise and USCCA events that take place each year. This is a huge deal and ultimately what sold me on their plan. TLS was the subject of a class action filed by Texas CHL holders. looking for best coverage for in-home firearm and range use . I taught NRA BOPs for a few years before switching to the USCCA this year. I was taught to and I practice safety at all times around firearms. I found it good to think over situations, see how my actions differed from others, and then go over some FAQs for general situations. All you really need is an umbrella insurance policy from your insurance agent. I love this site and it's been my trusted go-to for advice on all kinds of gun-related subjects. However on par with concealed carry qualifications if your state requires those. Both these large organizations have an impressive number of members and it is no surprise considering how comprehensive their insurance plans are. Youll still have your insurance regardless of what plan. Count me in as a loyal viewer of PEW PEW Tactical. Ok, theres even more stuff now when you sign up. All insurance plans will give you financial aid that youll use if you find yourself in any legal battle (criminal and/or civil). I thought the same thing. Also, 20 percent of the criminal legal aid was immediately paid to the policyholder to ensure that the retainer fee for attorneys had been taken care of before the court appearance. In addition the web site is user friendly and easy to navigate. We've seen all too many self-defense scenarios on video which turn into high profile cases. Now I'm reading the insurance policy that you link to because in my day job, I teach insurance. I just checked with USCCA and they offer full coverage for the spouse for an extra $47. One of the flagship features for NRA Carry Guard members was the inclusion of a membership to the NRA. Is your wife covered? I still got Platinum level insurance based on Murphy's Law (the worst will happen). Prepare to adjust their filters. Sure, but does your umbrella cover up front costs of retaining a lawyer? One of the main things to point out is that CCW Safe does not actually place a limit on the dollar amount available for criminal defense. Travel insurance is practically all profit. This membership would last the entire year and would be renewed alongside the insurance policy had they chosen to renew the policy itself yearly. Become a USCCA Certified Instructor in 3 Easy Steps Choose an Instructor Course Reserve your spot in one of our core curriculum courses: Concealed Carry and Home Defense Fundamentals - Classroom instruction for your future students to obtain their permits Defensive Shooting Fundamentals - Range instruction for real-world defensive situations First up is a class with world-renown Rob Pincus that goes over defensive shooting concepts. You have Kevin again learning about the fundamentals of handgunsbut also the caveats that separate a beginner from the more advanced. As a Member, they are not the policyholder, the USCCA is the policy holder. I actually picked up USCCA when you published the original article and have never felt bad about my decision. If the maximum coverage is 10% for a $250,000 Bond you're capped @ $25,000. USCCA vs NRA Differences Let's start comparing the two starting with the differences: Money-Back Guarantee The USCAA intends to issue its insurance policy to concealed carry gun owners everywhere while it is available (if the owner so chooses). Both the USCCA and NRA are connected to numerous attorneys across all 50 states, providing you with the best legal protection you need to ensure that you lawfully and legally exercised your right to bear arms. In the insurance package; where if you PLEAD GUILTY OR FOUND GUILTY, you can be forced to repay everything back to the USCCA!! Between work, chores and naps during TV moviesI am not training; but also my family doesn't know that I have it (so the hiding it and secrecy in the home is also a training deterrent). It should be noted that the state of NY has shut down the NRA CCW program. It might be better to sell this as a pre-paid legal product, which would not necessarily run into the same legal ramifications. NH VT MA CT RI NJ DE MD DC NYC PR HI AK CA NV OR WA ID MT WY UT AZ CO NM TX OK KS NE SD ND MN IA WI IL MO AR LA MS AL TN KY IN MI OH PA . It's for the yearI'll be updating the article to show this pretty awesome perk! Also, I had Insurance coverage on my gun collection with NRA this past year. I was under the impression that my spouse ( domestic partner) would need a separate full member ship. The one-time cost of $250 is included in the $597 class fee. I hope I never have to test to see if I made a good decision. My account on their website said I had a yearly membership, however on my previous payments my account clearly said EPL. My greatest wish I have is that no one has to go through this type of event.. Of course, the main reason being is that the NRA no longer has the Carry Guard insurance program. Thank for the info. So, if you go to a jury trial, expect to pay for it yourself, whatever. They refuse to pay. Unfortunately for NRA Carry Guard, discounts for these groups were not available. However, its a different story for NRA Carry Guard. Your sources need to be vetted a little better. I am looking for a replacement for myself til I get moved out of Washington State in a couple of years. I have been carrying here in Illinois pretty much since the law was passed here and have been thinking about getting coverage. And now I hope to answer some of yours! Unlike many of the other companies offering similar coverages, both were backed by reputable insurance companies and have set dollar-amount coverage limits. Portuguese products available Online we mail to all lower 48 states. Its good to think of it now before something bad happens! USCCA Membership USCCA Membership includes educational courses and self-defense liability insurance. Plus youre able to play at up to 2x rates if youre like me and have gotten used to it on YouTube and podcasts. There will be times when you may not be able to use your firearm in a potentially dangerous or deadly situation. As most of you have figured out already. They do a good job of going through the basics starting with waterand actually deep dive into what purifiers to get for your specific purpose.

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